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アlex's avatar

Security Incompetence has become an acceptable narrative for the public to swallow after Trump's last two botched assassination attempts. This is at the same level of "competency" as those jail guards night watching over Epstein...

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Velociraver's avatar

You mean "staged assassination attempts".

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bernie holland's avatar

Precisely - and this was no exception

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Piotr Dzialak's avatar

Those texts are laughable. No 22-year old civilian speaks with this vocabulary, grammar, and punctuation. Who uses Past Perfect and commas in texts to their lover? Unless, he has some kind of OCD (like the author of this post).

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Kit Klarenberg's avatar

Also providing all this extensive, totally extraneous and utterly incriminating detail...

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Piotr Dzialak's avatar

Chat GPT claimed that it is in all likelihood a fake. It wasn't certain, whether the text was written by an LLM, because LLM could have been better at faking it. But, yet, "prompt-creators" are usually bad at prompts.

Considering that absolute loyalty is an only requirement for jobs in Trump administration, it is easy to conclude that people are simply stupid and bad at fabricating evidence.

I would nevertheless entertain the idea that it might have been done so badly IN PURPOSE. The hardcore MAGA will use anything for their confirmation bias. The opportunists, intelligent enough to understand the texts are garbage, will have to once again publically pretend the texts are all legit and show their loyalty. This will show any weaknesses and potential traitors in Trump's entourage. Finally, the opponents will aslo be warned: this is the new "reality" and we will get away with it and with more, so get in line, or you will be next.

It is a loyalty-check, a threat and an excuse for terror. "Truth" or even "credibility" are irrelevant.

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jg's avatar

Notice how little the roommate says in the texts. Just leading questions. I would think a WTF or something similar would be in there for 99% of people.

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Rachel's avatar

THIS!

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Gnuneo's avatar

It's worth mentioning that a prime target for Israeli infiltration has been Western 'security' firms.

Historically, many if not most successful assassinations were either carried out or aided by the security teams/bodyguards.

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Sal's avatar

💯 and it is said that his security team for this event was an Israeli company. I wonder if @Kit could confirm that as well.

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Kit Klarenberg's avatar

The Shaffer Group, which used to run TPUSA security, is dominated by individuals with links to Israeli lobby groups and Israeli military/intel veterans. Kirk himself in conversation with Bill Maher said he relied on the Israelis for security as they were the toughest and best prepared of them all.

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Sal's avatar

Imagine the number of sayans in there. The Shaffer Group was no longer running their security for some years, but allegedly for this one event they returned. Is that something you could confirm?

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Gnuneo's avatar

"Implement Order 66!"

"No problems, sir!"

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Gnuneo's avatar

It's curious that within hours of the Trump attempted assassination, we had details and criticism of the SS detail by the corporate media.

And yet with this assassination there has been a 100% corporate media blackout on the security. Really makes you think.

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Penny's avatar

I do not believe for 1 minute that he was assassinated

He’s carried into a SUV no blood his head appears up, he T shirt is off, if this was real, paramedics which were there would have seen to him and a helicopter would have evacuated him to hospital, then to cap it all his wife’s behaviour is odd to say the least

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Kit Klarenberg's avatar

Nothing about the event makes any logical sense. I didn't mention for reasons of space but there's now footage circulating of TPUSA operatives rushing en masse to the scene of the shooting instantly after Kirk gets hit, and seemingly swiping objects from the table where Kirk was sat - which tends to suggest they somehow knew there was no risk of further fire. Moreover, we've had no autopsy or ballistics report, or even any clarity on which hospital he was allegedly taken to.

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Sal's avatar

All of it is weird indeed. Why was Kirk carried into an obscure SUV despite the presence of ambulances. That can never be the protocol, can it?

Have you seen Candace Owen’s or Laurent Guyenot’s investigations on this?

I’m glad you are on this as well now!

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Evelyn K. Brunswick's avatar

Careful Kit - you wouldn't want to give them ammunition to accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist now, eh!

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The Real World's avatar

This whole event is a conspiracy! From top to bottom.

When are people going to learn that the word 'theory' does not automatically follow the word 'conspiracy'? It's mind-game planted by dark forces to confuse people into thinking conspiracies don't exist. In fact, they occur daily!

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letterwriter's avatar

The zionist influencers had to "conspire" in order to attack CK with their demands that he fall inline. The engine of the entire pro-Israel propaganda is a conspiracy, which they have discussed in their Knesset yes but the collusion those individuals have obtained from Americans is definitely conspiracy, and so on. Ugh. Scoffers are just copying the attitude that they think is most likely to make them look knowledgeable.

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Sera's avatar

I haven’t yet re-viewed the Trump near miss, but he too exhibited little fear of continued shooting as he defiantly raised his fist just after being shot. I would have thought the Secret Service would have had him completely covered.

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jsarnak's avatar

Of course the entire "episode" was orchestrated to be a "shitshow" , I really believe Kirk is dead. People that gain that amount of fame at his age will find it difficult to give it up to go hide and live in obscurity. The entire memorial service was awful, I cannot believe his wife agreed to participate, but I was shocked to find out her own Father has some connections with Israeli intelligence. I can say for sure we will never be told the truth by the Govt.

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letterwriter's avatar

That was indeed shocking. I wonder if that has anything to do with why a 22 year old woman who wants to "submit to her man" would find an 18 year old boy appealing.

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bernie holland's avatar

Neither do I believe he is dead. The behaviour of his "widow" attests to that. TPUSA is massive Zionist grift and both Kirk and his wife are in on it.

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Judith L. Osterman's avatar

See my comment below.

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Judith L. Osterman's avatar

I am almost convinced that he wasn't killed based on the lack of blood- not even any on the security detail's hands as they poked around on Kirk's "corpse", and none on those dazzling white sneakers. The original death shot video that we all saw was AI, as evidenced by the gold ring on Kirk's ring finger suddenly appearing on his pinky. The other video, taken after CK collapsed to the ground shows the chair in which he had been sitting fall THROUGH THE TABLE, ghostlike. Definitely AI.

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Yoni Reinón's avatar

As the article points out, it was a public execution. They could have killed him in a thousand different ways and claim heart attack, balcony suicide, car crash, you name it. But the perpetrators intended to convey a message, on 10th september, the 911 eve. Its all crystal clear. These people own the US and want to show it off. Sorry to say I cant see no alternative for the blackhole the US is in.

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Judith L. Osterman's avatar

Having it on 9/10 makes it easy to remember and creates an association with the other fake terrorist event, although, clearly, the target in this case is not West Asian Arab Muslims, but domestic identity politics militants falsely described as leftists. Beyond the LSMFT groups, however, are the genuine leftists and near leftists, those people who find it hard to swallow the neck of steel narrative, who are the real witchhunt material.

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Tay Williams's avatar

A couple comments: this murder is eerily similar to the staged assassination attempt on child rapist trump. It is believed the target was really Thomas Crooks all along. Secondly, having fired a 30.06 hundreds of times, the bullet would NEVER be stopped by the skin because the whole neck would be gone leaving a gigantic exit wound. FBI shooting reconstruction team should easily determine the shooting trajectory.

Regarding the Israeli angle, look harder this is a standard Mossad op. The rooftop shooter fires a loud weapon then seen running just as an agent directly behind the victim fires a small caliber weapon. Robinson is a patsy. This op is reminiscent of the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in the 90s. Same scenario, outdoor rally, shooter approaches from the front, Rabin shot. But, the entry wound was in the back. Who was standing right behind him- Benjamin Netanyahu who wanted Rabins job. Look harder, the Israelis did it. Just like Charlie Kirk said, “if I get killed, Israel did it.” Tyler Robinson was the distraction, make everyone look that direction.

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Judith L. Osterman's avatar

Are you speculating that Bibi shot Rabin? Where can I read about this?

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Evelyn K. Brunswick's avatar

Of course what is being lost in all this speculation - deliberately of course - and what we should be focussing on, is the sheer cult-like evil of the American far-right evangelicals whom Kirk represented.

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Natalia's avatar

Hegseth's Brownshirts

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July 1935 German generals were called to a surprise assembly in Berlin and informed that their previous oath to the Weimar constitution was void and that they would be required to swear a personal oath to the Führer. Most generals took the new oath to keep their positions.

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@PeteHegseth: Cool story;

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Lily East's avatar

I wonder what Erika Kirk TRULY thinks about his veeeery public mafia (aka israhelli) style murder.

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Kit Klarenberg's avatar

Her dad, who worked in Raytheon’s Israeli division when the Iron Dome was constructed, might have some interesting thoughts on the matter too

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Lily East's avatar

I've been hearing a lot of things about her and her past, including her family. It would be good to hear more because she's been eerily silent.

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Tim N's avatar

Ill give her the benefit of the doubt for now--her husband got murdered in public. Not everyone would be talkative after that.

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Lily East's avatar

She's been talking. What she's been saying and *how* she’s been saying it is odd to say the least.

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Kit Klarenberg's avatar

The giggling during his memorial…

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Lily East's avatar

Exactly. I've seen many folks grieving over loved ones. That was not grief. Yeah, I'm judging and I don't care who doesn't like it. Her whole demeanor is just off.

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Judith L. Osterman's avatar

Have you verified that? Some youtuber said that was false; that he never worked for Raytheon. Another person said the claim that Kirk's father, the architect, worked on Trump Tower was false. Have you dug into the Erika Kirk connection with a Romanian children's agency which may have been engaged in child trafficking?

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Velociraver's avatar

No funeral. Where's the funeral? Not a staged rally, an actual FUNERAL.

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Propaganda Girl's avatar

Considering that Kirk was considered a controversial figure by some, why did he engage in a venue in an enclosed area surrounded by flat roofs? The saga of the minimally or unprotected flat roof continues. How stupid can people be. This assassination was predictable and likely could have been prevented.

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Judith L. Osterman's avatar

At an earlier event that had many fewer attendees, his security detail was 60. This one was , I believe, 6.

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Al DuClur's avatar

It seems as though the powers that be and the media are so used to getting away with obviously nonsensical narratives (thinking of you Building 7) that they don't try to create a narrative that can withstand even cursory examination.

Glass half empty: Unfortunately, they seem to be getting away with this one with the main debate being was that kid MAGA or ANTIFA. Yes, the government always lies but this time they are telling the truth.

Glass, half full:

A vocal minority is calling BS on the official narrative.

One other oddity to add to your list is Erika Kirk's unique approach to grieving which seems to consist of sidelining what have to be traumatized kids so she can jump in and be boss girl at TPUSA.

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John Steppling's avatar

we didnt even get to the lack of autopsy or hospital official announcement.

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ahenobarbus's avatar

Excellent work. Stick with this story. There is no question this murder was committed by a professional team, not a lone kid. If the identity of the TP staffer who immediately removed evidence from the scene can be discovered, that would advance things immensely. Many TP staff must have seen and interacted with this individual that day.

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Michael Peck's avatar

Former CIA analyst Larry Johnson’s analysis casts doubt on commentary suggesting the bullet was not fired from in front of Kirk:

https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/a-charlie-kirk-update-while-trump

Several theories about the shooting are demolished here;

https://open.substack.com/pub/larrycjohnson/p/chris-martenson-decimates-the-various

And the discussion about the shooting at the start of this interview mentions amongst other anomalies that no autopsy took place.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gzhWSuNKFLI

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Kojo's avatar

"....TPUSA operative who subsequently interfered with the crime scene...."

Interesting, bearing in mind that the country's enormous security state seeds operatives undercover in every political organization and even community organizations and businesses too.

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Helge's avatar

more bullshit after bullshit. America is being played so blatantly - easier than taking candy from a baby…jussis…

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