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Javier Navarro-Reverter's avatar

Read the Scott Ritter report “The enemy within” regarding Ukrainian groups operating in the US.

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Billy Masterson's avatar

A minor point?

(Quote) "speaking in Cyrillic"

Cyrillic being an alphabet rather than a language, perhaps that should be changed to "WRITING in Cyrillic".

This whole business of Ukrainians locating and grooming the vulnerable/gullible in USA, then directing them to do political violence really needs to be broadly publicized.

Ukrainian Nazis are directly impacting my original home area- I grew up in the same county this kid lived in when he killed his parents with their advice & guidance. In a related matter, I was quite surprised to discover there was now a "Summer camp" near there with statues of Bandera & other Ukrainian ultra nationalist heroes (Stepan Bandera, Roman Shukhevych, Yevhen Konovalets and Symon Petliura)- The camp having been established by Illinois resident Ukrainian Nazi immigrants and their first generation descendants for indoctrinating children with their "cultural values".

https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2021/03/29/ukrainian-baraboo-nazi-statues/

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letterwriter's avatar

Wow. Having become familiar with the area I have been perceiving for a while that there is a large subset that brought over distinctly fascist or feudal attitudes, who have very little interest in ideas such as Constitutional rights, equality under the law, acknowledging the law, etc. Weak K-12 civics education is really not helping and should be strengthened stat, because it's a big enough problem in the area in question that law is undermined and abuses persist which would shock people from other areas.

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TheRepublicIsDead's avatar

Without reading your fine penmanship first, I say, yes. And MI 6 did the heavy lifting.

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Feral Finster's avatar

To be fair, I haven't seen any coverage of Casap, although I have not exactly been looking.

Still, don't expect anyone to investigate the Ukrainian aspect, lest wrongthink ensue.

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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

The UkroNam flags have been freshly rehung around SF. There are folks from Ukraine who live all around the bay area. When I talked to one a while back in Walnut crick he said he'd been able to buy a couple of houses in Ukraine before he had to leave.....

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Theresa Barzee's avatar

Wow!

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Gnuneo's avatar

Beat me to the punch!

Now THIS is reporting!!!

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Die Untermensche's avatar

Of course, we must remember what Zelensky said in the White House while arguing with Trump and Vance. "you have a nice ocean and you don't feel it now but you will feel it in the future." That was a direct threat to Trump that there will be violence done to America for stepping away from the Ukraine conflict. Of course he implied it would be the Russians, but he's not speaking for the Russians, he's speaking for his sponsors - Trumps enemies. That was the moment that Trump reacted and lost his temper with Zelensky, "don't tell us what we'll feel!"

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Sue's avatar

Thank you dear Kit, I over read this information, we are so overloaded by information that this

kind of important to be questions go unnoticed. I supose this kind of nefarious magnicidious

are planned days yes days not, but always expected of the oficial suspects like CIA -MOSSAD - MI6 - or ocasionally some other.

The advantages or disadvantages of today information networks lets hope it doesn't take us into

a minority report kind of society

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Linda Hagge's avatar

Kit, I think you wake up in the morning and say to yourself, "How can I astonish people today"?

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Gilgamech's avatar

I guess it’s possible they are holding this in reserve as ammunition for when they cut Ukraine loose completely? Which means it could even be a pro-Trump psyop? Who knows. It stinks, whatever it is.

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Gilgamech's avatar

Very interesting

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Billy Masterson's avatar

@rkg

From that article, it appears the technology may be a nothing burger/flashy buzz word filled con job to extract money from gullible (and none to tech savvy!) law enforcement types?

https://www.wired.com/story/massive-blue-overwatch-ai-personas-police-suspects/

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Kojo's avatar

But given that its also open knowledge that the Ukranian intellenge services are a fully controlled and funded subsidiary of Langley and Vauxhaull Cross....surely this is a JFK-level plot?

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Gilgamech's avatar

Not fully controlled - there is a window for something like this to be home grown. Or not.

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Kojo's avatar

The Ukrainian intelliegence is completely reliant on money from MI6 and CIA. Without it, they fold like a deck of cards.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/03/29/world/europe/us-ukraine-military-war-wiesbaden.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html

https://tass.com/world/1566051

There is NO way the Ukranians would take an action of this magnitude if there was even a shadow of a question that the action would result in them being cut off. Because that would leave them totally naked.

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Evelyn K. Brunswick's avatar

They would also know that the FBI would have access to anything mentioned on Telegram, so they would not instruct their agents to use that platform.

This means the whole thing is a setup.

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Kojo's avatar

So basically they are trying to fake something, to turn Trump against Russia. So the war money can keep rolling in.

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Evelyn K. Brunswick's avatar

I can buy that one. Qui bono and all that.

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D Shelby's avatar

American Nazi for Ukraine 🇺🇦 like #boneface .

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Ahenobarbus's avatar

Thank you, Kit!

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Evelyn K. Brunswick's avatar

Great article - consider it archived. It's got some excellent puzzle pieces in it.

To wit: 1/ Ukrainian intel would know the American intelligence agencies can access anything on Telegram, so they would instruct their real agents not to use it. Especially not so openly. If you, as a field agent, have to use social media, then you would have a one time pad and make it look like a normal conversation.

This suggests either a 'set up' or 'deliberately created information' (or 'evidence').

2/ The mention of 'satanism' is IMO the most important aspect here. We're talking mind-control of course. In a similar way to a lot of these so-called 'terrorists' and 'high school shootings' etc. The association between satanists and MK-Ultra-affiliated projects goes back 60-70 years of course.

Naturally, this is the bit no one would be talking about. See Dave McGowan's must-read 'Programmed to Kill'. It's why so much of the conspiracy theory subculture has been overtaken by this 'fake events narrative', and stuff like Sandy Hook has been overly promoted, as a misdirection away from programmed mind control victims (and thus, by association, also the child abuse network and an understanding of multiple personality conditioning).

If this kid was talking openly on Telegram then he's clearly not a proper agent. Manipulated somehow, perhaps. A misdirection, perhaps.

3/ We can be pretty much certain that last year's 'failed assassination' of Trump was an entirely fake/staged event, so one question is how does this new thing fit into this ongoing narrative? Everything, after all, is a narrative.

4/ Controlled opposition, which includes the far right.

5/ The usual two suspects, namely A/ Strategy of tension, and B/ Increased surveillance powers for the intel agencies (in this case, of the Internet/social media - see also Online Safety Act etc.).

In the end though, as I say, for me the most important puzzle piece here is my number 2 above.

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Larry's avatar

maybe

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Julian Hudson's avatar

Even if they did, what difference would it make to Trump or the NeoCons? They will still support the Ukrainian government.

The U.S. government has no concept of right vs wrong when it comes to U.S. hegemony.

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