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Hi Rama just a side note, I have seen recently writers and influencers (here on Substack probably)using the term ‘Global Majority’ instead of ‘Global South’. I think it’s quite an empowering turn of phrase especially when facing western hegemony. Any thoughts?
"...what has an Ecuadorian got in common with a Cameroonian? Or an American and a Norwegian?.."
An enormous number of things. It is surprising that you do not understand that the doctrines of human equality and solidarity are founded on realities.
What both India and China have in common with the 'Global South" and each other is that they were among the most abused of Imperialism's victims.
It's more than empowering - its strips naked the western regime and highlights the colonial nature of that regime.
When someone says "rules based order" what they mean is they only respect "white man's rules"....minority rule., and they reject international law where all countries are placed on an equal footing.
Iraq, Libya, and Syria are recent examples. Previously, Congo, Chile, and many Latin American countries were victims of Western imperialism (financial capitalism). The majority of people in the West no longer believe their governments' narratives and support for illegal wars. Western ruling classes are pushing for control of free speech through legislation, realizing that the West has lost credibility among populations and governments in the Global South. Their double standards are being exposed on a daily basis, thanks to alternative media.
Oh well - yet one more reason to lament the loss of whatever remnants there ever were of the honourable gentleman and lady spy in SIS. If there ever were - think nasty le Cercle types like Nick Elliott who, ironically, was also MI6's man in Istanbul once upon a time 80 years ago (think Vermehren defection). That MI6 woman you mentioned perfectly fits that despicable profile. It really does make you wonder about the psychologists who do 'vetting' for MI6's recruitment section these days. They're the ones who need assessments.
None of these people could ever be said to care for the interests of the British people - and, ultimately, therefore the country itself.
The people of Britannia have a need to know about all this stuff. Except they are so subjugated I seriously doubt that even if they did know they'd have the freedom and the guile, or the love, to rise up, take their country back and then use that as a base to propagate goodness and humanity around the world. But still the knowledge must be told. Simply out of principle. So good for you Kit and keep going.
It is a nasty and horrible Circus and I for one shall no longer be visiting the next time it comes to town.
This stuff has been going on forever. What is your point? Is the Assad government a good thing for the Syrian people? Has Hezbollah de facto control a good thing for the people of Lebanon? Sometimes there are the good guys and the bad guys. Sometimes just the less bad. I would argue that Assad and Hezbollah pretty bad
Hey, Bruce, Assad is so popular in Syria he does not need bodyguards. He walks to work.
Syria is attacked by Israel on a daily basis, and of course, has been brutally targeted by the US for over a decade by using actual terrorists as well as ridiculous propaganda. Hezbollah started out as a charity and aid organization, and only became militarized when Lebanon was attacked by Israel--repeatedly. It still operates hospitals and clinics, food banks, etc. Its military arm is far smaller than its charity arm. Syria and Lebanon are sovereign countries who have the right by international law to defend themselves against nearly constant invasion and aggression by Israel, the US and UK. That is why there are UN peacekeepers in Lebanon. The only one shooting at them is Israel. Not Hezbollah. Yes, there are good guys and bad guys in the Levant. Unfortunately, you seem not to know who they are. I suggest reading some history.
Hezbollah is an aid society? There is no where this can go constructively. Assad and his wife and family run Syria as a mafia operation. His father and he have killed a million Syrians
So you dispute that Hezbollah has political and medical wings? That they run hospitals and clinics? The EU distinguishes between their military and political/aid wings, being careful to not use the term "terrorist" to describe the aid services or the governing arm. You might also want to look up what prompted Hezbollah to form a military in the first place--it was Israel's constant invasions of southern Lebanon. This happened in the early 80s, about the same time Hamas formed a military wing for the exact same reason--it was the result of repeated Israeli military incursions into Gaza. The term "terrorist" used by the West is just means "someone who fights back against our aggression." All the tactics used by "terrorists" are also used by the Israelis and the US; in fact, the Israelis invented modern terrorism during the Mandate period by bombing every train, police station, fire station, movie theatre, school, orphanage, and shooting every police officer, public official, Palestinian and even other Jews who weren't cooperative on a daily basis for decades. They recruited 12 and 13 years olds to do this. There were at least three Zionist terrorist gangs operating, and many of their officers later became presidents and prime ministers of Israel. So take a long look before calling other groups terrorists, or calling other presidents mafia if you don't call Israeli presidents the same thing. Much of what has been said about Assad is pure propaganda to gin up support for Western aggression in Syria. What has Assad done in this world that even compares with what Israel has done over the last 76 years, and what Zionists did between 1920 and 1948? Those you are claiming he killed died in a war started by the West. The "civil war" in Syria happened because WE supported terrorist militias attacking Assad's forces. Those militants we saw beheading people on live video were the people WE and Israel were supporting with our tax dollars. Many of the "atrocities" Assad supposedly committed have been shown by independent journalists to be psy-ops that were not done by Assad at all. The Assad family are not "good guys" any more than Putin is a "good guy," but they are adults and leaders of sovereign countries. Compared to Netanyahu and Biden they are saints.
What a crock . Why do invert the truth? Have you lost your mind ? Have you not heard how Assad mass slaughtered tens of thousands of his own sunni Arab Syrian citizens ( the survivors despise him and Hezbollah too ) with the help of Hezbollah simply for protesting by bashing them with hammers and throwing them in pits. Just ask the Syrians in Europe and Lebanon and in Canada. A foreign entity Iranian regime propped him against his own people. Separately Iranian people do that against their own Persian people too and moore than 70 percent of iranian Persian people want the Iranian regime ayatollah tyrant regime eliminated… it was the Sunni Arab word that wanted Assad gone. ( USA via Obama should have interfered more but they didn’t enough Syrians ( the majority are sunni ) were begging the Americans to help them against Assad and Iranian forces ( then Wagner )
As for Israel ( yes the Jewish state ( Syria Jordan etc are Arab states with no Jews ) it has basic civil liberties for its actual Israeli citizens in Israel proper ( unlike Syria ) and they are allowed to protest en masse and have gay rights , women’s rights, trans rights etc with 2 M Arabs citizens who work as judges and doctors. You are deranged with your anti Zionist ideology as you make blatant glaring omissions blaming Israel for Syria killing their own tens of thousands Sunni population ( you might as well )
Maybe James would like to tell us how often Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria or Iran has bombed working hospitals in other countries or territories? The US and Israel do it all the time. https://www.msf.org/kunduz-hospital-attack-depth Needless to say, doing so is against international law and is a war crime.
You might want to check your hysterical "facts" there James. I am not just making shit up. Yes, Assad violently suppressed an armed insurrection and about 300 were killed. What do you think would happen in the US if there were an armed insurrection? Then civil war broke out, which the US took advantage of by arming and funding the insurrectionists, some of which turned out to be ISIS (we are SUCH good guys, right? LOL) BTW, that civil war happened in part because of a long serious drought that made life very difficult for many Syrians. Again, not saying Assad is some sort of great guy, but if civil war happened in the US--say the forces of Trump and the forces of Biden started killing each other on the streets and many died, would you say "Biden" killed tens of thousands? (Or Trump, take your pick) No, you wouldn't. You'd say tens of thousands were killed in a civil war. That war was encouraged, prompted and funded by the US, and we know that's true because they admit it, and as usual when we do something idiotic like that, our involvement just caused more problems and got Russia involved, as well as others. And yes, 85% of Syrians support Assad, especially in Damascus. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda
Now let's compare that to Israel's record against the Palestinians. Again, I'm not just making shit up--that data is freely available. In the first place, Israel is a country based on decades of terrorism that has been held by terrorism and brutal suppression of the indigenous population. When Britain abandoned the Mandate because they had created an impossible situation by both promising Zionists a Jewish home in Palestine, and also promising Palestinians their independence in exchange for fighting with the Allies in WW1, they turned the problem over to the new UN, who suggested a partition plan. The reaction from the two sides tells you everything you need to know: Zionists accepted the plan, but said publicly THEY WOULD JUST TAKE THE REST LATER. It's important to realize that at that time Zionists owned just 7% of the land, and Palestinians owned 85%. Would you accept partition if you were a Palestinian? What the Palestinians said was they wanted ONE state WITH EQUAL RIGHTS FOR EVERYONE no matter what their religion. SUCH an irrational request, right? My information comes from dozens of books written by Israeli historians, but primarily from international law expert John Quigley's The Legality of a Jewish State. Zionists basically just seized the country and started killing Palestinians and driving them off their land, some 750,000 of them. The people in Gaza today are their descendants. What has happened in the last 76 years is a litany of murder and reprisal that has left about 1000 Palestinians dead for every one Israeli killed. All because Zionists insisted on an ethnostate instead of a democracy. No, Israel is not a "liberal democracy." Every human rights organization on earth declares Israel a brutally suppressive apartheid state. They are the only country on earth that imprisons children (and adults) without charge or trial and holds them indefinitely. In other words, they take hostages. Before 10/7 they were holding 1200 such hostages. Now they are holding over 10,000 such hostages, most from the West Bank. Remember, these people are not charged with anything. In prison these people are starved, raped and beaten. Don't ask me, ask any human rights organization. They are fed dry rice as their "diet." Their bones are broken and left unset. They are denied medical treatment. The people who do this are our "allies." The whole purpose of the Hamas raid on 10/7 was to take hostages to exchange for the Palestinian hostages Israel was already holding.
As far as Israelis being able to protest, you might ask the people protesting there now and being beaten up by police and imprisoned what they think of their "liberal democracy."
Now let's do the US. Since WW2 the US has overturned the governments of over 80 countries, most of them democracies, often to install dictators. We have even overturned the governments of a couple of our allies, like Italy, Canada and Australia. When overturning the governments has involved an actual invasion, we have killed MILLIONS of civilians. Our involvement in the Balkans was illegal and cost the lives of hundreds of thousands. Our invasion of Iraq killed millions.
The key issue I guess is that some countries covertly interfere in other nations' internal affairs to further their own geopolitical interests, often with little regard for the potentially deadly consequences these actions may have on local populations. Such interference frequently exacerbates existing tensions and conflicts, aligning them with the intervening country's ideological goals. Does that help Bruce?
Listen to a few Assad's and Nasrallah's speeches, and you will see it immediately.
My advice: try to get rid of black and white optics. World is colourful. Try to see it a s whole, just as it is. Don't demand from journalists to tell you who is good and who is bad. Responsible readers do their homework and investigate themselves, before posting their "opinion".
Anyway, Assad and Nasrallah obviously care and cared for their people, so they are obviously good for their people. That's why we can conclude they are good guys.
And Kit Klarenberg is an excellent journalist - his information is always exact and truthful. I just couldn't get to any other conclusion after having following him for the last year.
Assad was a butcher who murdered slaughtered ( with Hezbollah leader help ) tens and tens of thousands of his own Sunni citizens simply for protesting etc . He is detested in Syria and Lebanon. They both are . And you support that
CLEARLY YOU FOLLOW EVERY ANTI ZIONIST RADICAL LEFT CONSPIRACY THEORY ONE SIDED NARRATIVE SPREADING LIES AND OMITTING FACTS VIA FRAUD. FACT., I MEANING YOU, WILL EVEN USE A ANTI JEWISH STATE JEW WHO SAYS ISRAEL MUST NOT EXIST AND QUOTE THEIR MISLEADING NARRATIVE . I KNOW MANY PALESTINIANS WHO SOME WANT GENUINE PEACE BUT THEY ADMIT MANY DONT AND WANT THE DESTRUCTION OF JEWISH STATE- THE ONUS IS NOW ON THEM TO PROVE THEY WANT PEACE AS THEY HAVE FAILED TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH FANCIFUL DELUSIONS - TO DATE FROM 1937 TO 2008 WITH SECOND INTIFADA TERRORISM AFTER BEING OFFERED A PEACE DEAL ARAB STATE. ( BEFORE HAMSS WAS IN POWER) . YOU CHEERED OCT 7 I BET YOU DID . YOU ISLAMIC TERRORIST CELEBRATOR
False. I didn’t kill anyone you nut job fraud false accuser Don’t swear now you Hamas supporter. You are a Hamas baby killer supporter and Hamas rape denier? Yes . You are not welcome supporting Islamic terrorist but you can spew all the rubbish . ALL DEATHS ARE ON HAMAS. Stand down Hamas and release hostages and war will end. Call that out it’s simple.
Stop spreading your radical left anti Zionist ideology rubbish ( your anti Jewish ideology ) we all know the Jewish pogroms like 1929 by Arabs and others Jewish pogroms in Middle East Long existed before the state of Israel.l what was the Arabs Problem then about Jews ? The state of Israel it didn’t exist but anti Zionists like you to paint a fraudulent narrative of bliss for Jews under Arab / Islamic rule in Middle East. ( which is utterly false ) .. and why praise Assad who kills his own Arab citizens ( as does Iran regime etc ) I don’t see Israel murdering en masse their own Israeli citizens just for protesting en masses - they are allowed they have gay rights women’s rights and trans rights…. You are a joke ..
You need help James you are on another thread making a veiled threat against someone you disagree with. Maybe you are the antisemite trying to stir up hatred. Maybe you didn’t get the memo that inventing antisemitism or trying to stir it up is not a useful strategy at the current time. If you genuinely care about Jewish people I gently recommend you stop what you are doing. I hope all of us can come through this time into a better place, including you. People are sick of the wars and the world is too heavily armed for us to keep travelling down this road. Be well
Who killed who now? James, I want you to look up how many Palestinians have been killed by Zionists during the last 100 years versus the number of Zionists killed by Palestinians. Then I want you to look up the number of Muslims killed by the US, versus the number of US citizens killed by Muslims during the last 100 years. Or you could look up Muslims killed by Christians, versus Christians killed by Muslims. Get back to me when you've done that. While you're at it you could do Israelis killed by any Middle Eastern country, versus those from any Middle Eastern country killed by Israelis during the last 76 years. You might want to look at all the countries Iran has invaded, since Trump and Harris think they are an existential threat.
You are a fraud and misinformed radical left nut job clearly with respect ..What a crock . Why do invert the truth? Have you lost your mind ? Have you not heard how Assad mass slaughtered tens of thousands of his own sunni Arab Syrian citizens ( the survivors despise him and Hezbollah too ) with the help of Hezbollah simply for protesting by bashing them with hammers and throwing them in pits. Just ask the Syrians in Europe and Lebanon and in Canada. A foreign entity Iranian regime propped him against his own people. Separately Iranian people do that against their own Persian people too and moore than 70 percent of iranian Persian people want the Iranian regime ayatollah tyrant regime eliminated… it was the Sunni Arab word that wanted Assad gone. ( USA via Obama should have interfered more but they didn’t enough Syrians ( the majority are sunni ) were begging the Americans to help them against Assad and Iranian forces ( then Wagner )
As for Israel ( yes the Jewish state ( Syria Jordan etc are Arab states with no Jews ) it has basic civil liberties for its actual Israeli citizens in Israel proper ( unlike Syria ) and they are allowed to protest en masse and have gay rights , women’s rights, trans rights etc with 2 M Arabs citizens who work as judges and doctors. You are deranged with your anti Zionist ideology as you make blatant glaring omissions blaming Israel for Syria killing their own tens of thousands Sunni population ( you might as well )
The difference between Israel’s overall goal and the Jihadists overall goal is that Israel seeks to eliminate the terrorists trying to kill them, and the Jihadists goal is to kill the Jews (or at least destroy the Jewish state and subject the Jewish people to submission under their oppressive, supremacist, ultra-nationalist, fascist rule).
The lack of universal moral clarity on this is not just astounding, but with regard to those who call themselves academics, experts, journalists, politicians, commentators, professors, and the like, it’s honestly embarrassing.
It’s one thing to be against war, violence, and death, which is a natural impulse to all feeling humans, but it’s quite another to reverse the cause and effect of these regional wars. It isn’t hiding, it’s in plain sight.
It makes one wonder whether the jihadi-inspired brain rot has so deeply and irreparably pervaded our collective consciousness that they actually aren’t aware of their moral obfuscation, or worse, they know exactly what they’re doing and they’re doing it on purpose.
Either way, our zeitgeist is marked by a duration of sweeping dishonesty, and untruth only sets us down an ever more dangerous path…..
Iran has invaded Yemen with Houthis and occupied Lebanon with Hezbollah operating a state within a state. They interfere in Syria and do the same with Islamic terrorist proxies in Iraq. The whole Arab Sunni gulf world say they are toxic with territorial ambitions to dominate the Middle East with their tyrannical Shia Islamic rule caliphate that is their goal
Stop spreading your radical left anti Zionist ideology rubbish ( your anti Jewish ideology ) we all know the Jewish pogroms like 1929 by Arabs and others Jewish pogroms in Middle East Long existed before the state of Israel.l what was the Arabs Problem then about Jews ? The state of Israel it didn’t exist but anti Zionists like you to paint a fraudulent narrative of bliss for Jews under Arab / Islamic rule in Middle East. ( which is utterly false ) .. and why praise Assad who kills his own Arab citizens ( as does Iran regime etc ) I don’t see Israel murdering en masse their own Israeli citizens just for protesting en masses - they are allowed they have gay rights women’s rights and trans rights…. You are a joke ..
Stop spreading your radical left anti Zionist ideology rubbish ( your anti Jewish ideology ) we all know the Jewish pogroms like 1929 by Arabs and others Jewish pogroms in Middle East Long existed before the state of Israel.. but anti Zionists like to paint a fraudulent narrative of bliss for Jews under Arab / Islamic rule in Middle East. ( which is utterly false ) .. and wry praise Assad who kills his own Arab citizens ( as does Iran regime etc ) I don’t see Israel murdering en masse their own Israeli citizens just for protesting en masses - they are allowed they have gay rights women’s rights and trans rights…. You are a joke ..
The difference between Israel’s overall goal and the Jihadists overall goal is that Israel seeks to eliminate the terrorists trying to kill them, and the Jihadists goal is to kill the Jews (or at least destroy the Jewish state and subject the Jewish people to submission under their oppressive, supremacist, ultra-nationalist, fascist rule).
The lack of universal moral clarity on this is not just astounding, but with regard to those who call themselves academics, experts, journalists, politicians, commentators, professors, and the like, it’s honestly embarrassing.
It’s one thing to be against war, violence, and death, which is a natural impulse to all feeling humans, but it’s quite another to reverse the cause and effect of these regional wars. It isn’t hiding, it’s in plain sight.
It makes one wonder whether the jihadi-inspired brain rot has so deeply and irreparably pervaded our collective consciousness that they actually aren’t aware of their moral obfuscation, or worse, they know exactly what they’re doing and they’re doing it on purpose.
Either way, our zeitgeist is marked by a duration of sweeping dishonesty, and untruth only sets us down an ever more dangerous path…..
On my on my. Everything makes sense. Before I was fortunate enough to discover you how ignorant I was. Everytime I either read one of your articles or watch activemeassures my head hurts.
Great work as usual and I second the thanks for keeping it available for free. I’ll “rotate” my small-time funding of great journalists to you for awhile in appreciation.
Beyond that the sickening duplicity of these people’s language is a wonder to behold. I’m hoping it will call forth a Joseph Heller to skewer it.
I want to thank you for keeping your content free, Kit. I've lived as far from "the system" as its been possible for me to get for many years now, and as a result I no longer even have a bank account. But that doesn't mean I'm not interested in the world around me... Quite the opposite, in fact. It does mean that I can't do paid subscriptions though.
That said, I do my best to share the articles I find valuable.
Oh what an effing surprise!
Thank you Kit - the machinations of the usual suspects stink to high heaven.
Stay safe x
Cheers mate! I try my best!
Hi Rama just a side note, I have seen recently writers and influencers (here on Substack probably)using the term ‘Global Majority’ instead of ‘Global South’. I think it’s quite an empowering turn of phrase especially when facing western hegemony. Any thoughts?
I for one really like it and will use it, except in explicit geographic contexts.
"...what has an Ecuadorian got in common with a Cameroonian? Or an American and a Norwegian?.."
An enormous number of things. It is surprising that you do not understand that the doctrines of human equality and solidarity are founded on realities.
What both India and China have in common with the 'Global South" and each other is that they were among the most abused of Imperialism's victims.
It's more than empowering - its strips naked the western regime and highlights the colonial nature of that regime.
When someone says "rules based order" what they mean is they only respect "white man's rules"....minority rule., and they reject international law where all countries are placed on an equal footing.
Definately Kojo, demonstrated by their total lack of action after the ICJ's Plausible Genocide charge against Isreal, as if proof were needed.
Yep.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14623528.2024.2351261?src=recsys#d1e648
A Threshold Crossed: On Genocidal Intent and the Duty to Prevent Genocide in Palestine
Nimer Sultany
Published online: 09 May 2024
But even if there were no court, well these are people they keep bearhugging and declaring "ironclad support" for:
https://www.redpepper.org.uk/global-politics/palestine-middle-east/einsteins-nightmare-the-fascist-politicians-wielding-power-in-israel/
Clearly this the same old story of a murderous transnational minority allied across borders and oceans.
A grim reality we seem powerless to stop
Thank You Kit
Insightful research.
Iraq, Libya, and Syria are recent examples. Previously, Congo, Chile, and many Latin American countries were victims of Western imperialism (financial capitalism). The majority of people in the West no longer believe their governments' narratives and support for illegal wars. Western ruling classes are pushing for control of free speech through legislation, realizing that the West has lost credibility among populations and governments in the Global South. Their double standards are being exposed on a daily basis, thanks to alternative media.
Oh well - yet one more reason to lament the loss of whatever remnants there ever were of the honourable gentleman and lady spy in SIS. If there ever were - think nasty le Cercle types like Nick Elliott who, ironically, was also MI6's man in Istanbul once upon a time 80 years ago (think Vermehren defection). That MI6 woman you mentioned perfectly fits that despicable profile. It really does make you wonder about the psychologists who do 'vetting' for MI6's recruitment section these days. They're the ones who need assessments.
None of these people could ever be said to care for the interests of the British people - and, ultimately, therefore the country itself.
The people of Britannia have a need to know about all this stuff. Except they are so subjugated I seriously doubt that even if they did know they'd have the freedom and the guile, or the love, to rise up, take their country back and then use that as a base to propagate goodness and humanity around the world. But still the knowledge must be told. Simply out of principle. So good for you Kit and keep going.
It is a nasty and horrible Circus and I for one shall no longer be visiting the next time it comes to town.
Thank you, very informative
This stuff has been going on forever. What is your point? Is the Assad government a good thing for the Syrian people? Has Hezbollah de facto control a good thing for the people of Lebanon? Sometimes there are the good guys and the bad guys. Sometimes just the less bad. I would argue that Assad and Hezbollah pretty bad
Hey, Bruce, Assad is so popular in Syria he does not need bodyguards. He walks to work.
Syria is attacked by Israel on a daily basis, and of course, has been brutally targeted by the US for over a decade by using actual terrorists as well as ridiculous propaganda. Hezbollah started out as a charity and aid organization, and only became militarized when Lebanon was attacked by Israel--repeatedly. It still operates hospitals and clinics, food banks, etc. Its military arm is far smaller than its charity arm. Syria and Lebanon are sovereign countries who have the right by international law to defend themselves against nearly constant invasion and aggression by Israel, the US and UK. That is why there are UN peacekeepers in Lebanon. The only one shooting at them is Israel. Not Hezbollah. Yes, there are good guys and bad guys in the Levant. Unfortunately, you seem not to know who they are. I suggest reading some history.
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Hezbollah is an aid society? There is no where this can go constructively. Assad and his wife and family run Syria as a mafia operation. His father and he have killed a million Syrians
So you dispute that Hezbollah has political and medical wings? That they run hospitals and clinics? The EU distinguishes between their military and political/aid wings, being careful to not use the term "terrorist" to describe the aid services or the governing arm. You might also want to look up what prompted Hezbollah to form a military in the first place--it was Israel's constant invasions of southern Lebanon. This happened in the early 80s, about the same time Hamas formed a military wing for the exact same reason--it was the result of repeated Israeli military incursions into Gaza. The term "terrorist" used by the West is just means "someone who fights back against our aggression." All the tactics used by "terrorists" are also used by the Israelis and the US; in fact, the Israelis invented modern terrorism during the Mandate period by bombing every train, police station, fire station, movie theatre, school, orphanage, and shooting every police officer, public official, Palestinian and even other Jews who weren't cooperative on a daily basis for decades. They recruited 12 and 13 years olds to do this. There were at least three Zionist terrorist gangs operating, and many of their officers later became presidents and prime ministers of Israel. So take a long look before calling other groups terrorists, or calling other presidents mafia if you don't call Israeli presidents the same thing. Much of what has been said about Assad is pure propaganda to gin up support for Western aggression in Syria. What has Assad done in this world that even compares with what Israel has done over the last 76 years, and what Zionists did between 1920 and 1948? Those you are claiming he killed died in a war started by the West. The "civil war" in Syria happened because WE supported terrorist militias attacking Assad's forces. Those militants we saw beheading people on live video were the people WE and Israel were supporting with our tax dollars. Many of the "atrocities" Assad supposedly committed have been shown by independent journalists to be psy-ops that were not done by Assad at all. The Assad family are not "good guys" any more than Putin is a "good guy," but they are adults and leaders of sovereign countries. Compared to Netanyahu and Biden they are saints.
Bruce, you might want to consider the data/numbers outlined here (not in dispute) and ask yourself who the terrorists and mafia are: https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/extermination-works-at-first?publication_id=778851&post_id=150214079&isFreemail=false&r=1cce6&triedRedirect=true&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
What a crock . Why do invert the truth? Have you lost your mind ? Have you not heard how Assad mass slaughtered tens of thousands of his own sunni Arab Syrian citizens ( the survivors despise him and Hezbollah too ) with the help of Hezbollah simply for protesting by bashing them with hammers and throwing them in pits. Just ask the Syrians in Europe and Lebanon and in Canada. A foreign entity Iranian regime propped him against his own people. Separately Iranian people do that against their own Persian people too and moore than 70 percent of iranian Persian people want the Iranian regime ayatollah tyrant regime eliminated… it was the Sunni Arab word that wanted Assad gone. ( USA via Obama should have interfered more but they didn’t enough Syrians ( the majority are sunni ) were begging the Americans to help them against Assad and Iranian forces ( then Wagner )
As for Israel ( yes the Jewish state ( Syria Jordan etc are Arab states with no Jews ) it has basic civil liberties for its actual Israeli citizens in Israel proper ( unlike Syria ) and they are allowed to protest en masse and have gay rights , women’s rights, trans rights etc with 2 M Arabs citizens who work as judges and doctors. You are deranged with your anti Zionist ideology as you make blatant glaring omissions blaming Israel for Syria killing their own tens of thousands Sunni population ( you might as well )
Maybe James would like to tell us how often Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria or Iran has bombed working hospitals in other countries or territories? The US and Israel do it all the time. https://www.msf.org/kunduz-hospital-attack-depth Needless to say, doing so is against international law and is a war crime.
You might want to check your hysterical "facts" there James. I am not just making shit up. Yes, Assad violently suppressed an armed insurrection and about 300 were killed. What do you think would happen in the US if there were an armed insurrection? Then civil war broke out, which the US took advantage of by arming and funding the insurrectionists, some of which turned out to be ISIS (we are SUCH good guys, right? LOL) BTW, that civil war happened in part because of a long serious drought that made life very difficult for many Syrians. Again, not saying Assad is some sort of great guy, but if civil war happened in the US--say the forces of Trump and the forces of Biden started killing each other on the streets and many died, would you say "Biden" killed tens of thousands? (Or Trump, take your pick) No, you wouldn't. You'd say tens of thousands were killed in a civil war. That war was encouraged, prompted and funded by the US, and we know that's true because they admit it, and as usual when we do something idiotic like that, our involvement just caused more problems and got Russia involved, as well as others. And yes, 85% of Syrians support Assad, especially in Damascus. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda
Now let's compare that to Israel's record against the Palestinians. Again, I'm not just making shit up--that data is freely available. In the first place, Israel is a country based on decades of terrorism that has been held by terrorism and brutal suppression of the indigenous population. When Britain abandoned the Mandate because they had created an impossible situation by both promising Zionists a Jewish home in Palestine, and also promising Palestinians their independence in exchange for fighting with the Allies in WW1, they turned the problem over to the new UN, who suggested a partition plan. The reaction from the two sides tells you everything you need to know: Zionists accepted the plan, but said publicly THEY WOULD JUST TAKE THE REST LATER. It's important to realize that at that time Zionists owned just 7% of the land, and Palestinians owned 85%. Would you accept partition if you were a Palestinian? What the Palestinians said was they wanted ONE state WITH EQUAL RIGHTS FOR EVERYONE no matter what their religion. SUCH an irrational request, right? My information comes from dozens of books written by Israeli historians, but primarily from international law expert John Quigley's The Legality of a Jewish State. Zionists basically just seized the country and started killing Palestinians and driving them off their land, some 750,000 of them. The people in Gaza today are their descendants. What has happened in the last 76 years is a litany of murder and reprisal that has left about 1000 Palestinians dead for every one Israeli killed. All because Zionists insisted on an ethnostate instead of a democracy. No, Israel is not a "liberal democracy." Every human rights organization on earth declares Israel a brutally suppressive apartheid state. They are the only country on earth that imprisons children (and adults) without charge or trial and holds them indefinitely. In other words, they take hostages. Before 10/7 they were holding 1200 such hostages. Now they are holding over 10,000 such hostages, most from the West Bank. Remember, these people are not charged with anything. In prison these people are starved, raped and beaten. Don't ask me, ask any human rights organization. They are fed dry rice as their "diet." Their bones are broken and left unset. They are denied medical treatment. The people who do this are our "allies." The whole purpose of the Hamas raid on 10/7 was to take hostages to exchange for the Palestinian hostages Israel was already holding.
As far as Israelis being able to protest, you might ask the people protesting there now and being beaten up by police and imprisoned what they think of their "liberal democracy."
Now let's do the US. Since WW2 the US has overturned the governments of over 80 countries, most of them democracies, often to install dictators. We have even overturned the governments of a couple of our allies, like Italy, Canada and Australia. When overturning the governments has involved an actual invasion, we have killed MILLIONS of civilians. Our involvement in the Balkans was illegal and cost the lives of hundreds of thousands. Our invasion of Iraq killed millions.
None of any of this is secret or unattested.
The key issue I guess is that some countries covertly interfere in other nations' internal affairs to further their own geopolitical interests, often with little regard for the potentially deadly consequences these actions may have on local populations. Such interference frequently exacerbates existing tensions and conflicts, aligning them with the intervening country's ideological goals. Does that help Bruce?
Help? I guess. Sort of what I was saying
Listen to a few Assad's and Nasrallah's speeches, and you will see it immediately.
My advice: try to get rid of black and white optics. World is colourful. Try to see it a s whole, just as it is. Don't demand from journalists to tell you who is good and who is bad. Responsible readers do their homework and investigate themselves, before posting their "opinion".
Anyway, Assad and Nasrallah obviously care and cared for their people, so they are obviously good for their people. That's why we can conclude they are good guys.
And Kit Klarenberg is an excellent journalist - his information is always exact and truthful. I just couldn't get to any other conclusion after having following him for the last year.
Thank you so much, Kit!
Assad was a butcher who murdered slaughtered ( with Hezbollah leader help ) tens and tens of thousands of his own Sunni citizens simply for protesting etc . He is detested in Syria and Lebanon. They both are . And you support that
CLEARLY YOU FOLLOW EVERY ANTI ZIONIST RADICAL LEFT CONSPIRACY THEORY ONE SIDED NARRATIVE SPREADING LIES AND OMITTING FACTS VIA FRAUD. FACT., I MEANING YOU, WILL EVEN USE A ANTI JEWISH STATE JEW WHO SAYS ISRAEL MUST NOT EXIST AND QUOTE THEIR MISLEADING NARRATIVE . I KNOW MANY PALESTINIANS WHO SOME WANT GENUINE PEACE BUT THEY ADMIT MANY DONT AND WANT THE DESTRUCTION OF JEWISH STATE- THE ONUS IS NOW ON THEM TO PROVE THEY WANT PEACE AS THEY HAVE FAILED TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH FANCIFUL DELUSIONS - TO DATE FROM 1937 TO 2008 WITH SECOND INTIFADA TERRORISM AFTER BEING OFFERED A PEACE DEAL ARAB STATE. ( BEFORE HAMSS WAS IN POWER) . YOU CHEERED OCT 7 I BET YOU DID . YOU ISLAMIC TERRORIST CELEBRATOR
False. I didn’t kill anyone you nut job fraud false accuser Don’t swear now you Hamas supporter. You are a Hamas baby killer supporter and Hamas rape denier? Yes . You are not welcome supporting Islamic terrorist but you can spew all the rubbish . ALL DEATHS ARE ON HAMAS. Stand down Hamas and release hostages and war will end. Call that out it’s simple.
LIES. I DO NOT CHEER GENOCIDE SO THAT IS ANOTHER PROVABLE FRAUDULENT LIE YOU PEDDLE . IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS LIE? LOL
Stop spreading your radical left anti Zionist ideology rubbish ( your anti Jewish ideology ) we all know the Jewish pogroms like 1929 by Arabs and others Jewish pogroms in Middle East Long existed before the state of Israel.l what was the Arabs Problem then about Jews ? The state of Israel it didn’t exist but anti Zionists like you to paint a fraudulent narrative of bliss for Jews under Arab / Islamic rule in Middle East. ( which is utterly false ) .. and why praise Assad who kills his own Arab citizens ( as does Iran regime etc ) I don’t see Israel murdering en masse their own Israeli citizens just for protesting en masses - they are allowed they have gay rights women’s rights and trans rights…. You are a joke ..
Alex you liked it you are fraud exposed
You need help James you are on another thread making a veiled threat against someone you disagree with. Maybe you are the antisemite trying to stir up hatred. Maybe you didn’t get the memo that inventing antisemitism or trying to stir it up is not a useful strategy at the current time. If you genuinely care about Jewish people I gently recommend you stop what you are doing. I hope all of us can come through this time into a better place, including you. People are sick of the wars and the world is too heavily armed for us to keep travelling down this road. Be well
I beg your pardon. What nonsense are you spreading now ?
You are mad and deranged they killlef tend of thousands of their own citizens . You are exposed as fraud including the guy that liked it ..
Who killed who now? James, I want you to look up how many Palestinians have been killed by Zionists during the last 100 years versus the number of Zionists killed by Palestinians. Then I want you to look up the number of Muslims killed by the US, versus the number of US citizens killed by Muslims during the last 100 years. Or you could look up Muslims killed by Christians, versus Christians killed by Muslims. Get back to me when you've done that. While you're at it you could do Israelis killed by any Middle Eastern country, versus those from any Middle Eastern country killed by Israelis during the last 76 years. You might want to look at all the countries Iran has invaded, since Trump and Harris think they are an existential threat.
You are a fraud and misinformed radical left nut job clearly with respect ..What a crock . Why do invert the truth? Have you lost your mind ? Have you not heard how Assad mass slaughtered tens of thousands of his own sunni Arab Syrian citizens ( the survivors despise him and Hezbollah too ) with the help of Hezbollah simply for protesting by bashing them with hammers and throwing them in pits. Just ask the Syrians in Europe and Lebanon and in Canada. A foreign entity Iranian regime propped him against his own people. Separately Iranian people do that against their own Persian people too and moore than 70 percent of iranian Persian people want the Iranian regime ayatollah tyrant regime eliminated… it was the Sunni Arab word that wanted Assad gone. ( USA via Obama should have interfered more but they didn’t enough Syrians ( the majority are sunni ) were begging the Americans to help them against Assad and Iranian forces ( then Wagner )
As for Israel ( yes the Jewish state ( Syria Jordan etc are Arab states with no Jews ) it has basic civil liberties for its actual Israeli citizens in Israel proper ( unlike Syria ) and they are allowed to protest en masse and have gay rights , women’s rights, trans rights etc with 2 M Arabs citizens who work as judges and doctors. You are deranged with your anti Zionist ideology as you make blatant glaring omissions blaming Israel for Syria killing their own tens of thousands Sunni population ( you might as well )
The difference between Israel’s overall goal and the Jihadists overall goal is that Israel seeks to eliminate the terrorists trying to kill them, and the Jihadists goal is to kill the Jews (or at least destroy the Jewish state and subject the Jewish people to submission under their oppressive, supremacist, ultra-nationalist, fascist rule).
The lack of universal moral clarity on this is not just astounding, but with regard to those who call themselves academics, experts, journalists, politicians, commentators, professors, and the like, it’s honestly embarrassing.
It’s one thing to be against war, violence, and death, which is a natural impulse to all feeling humans, but it’s quite another to reverse the cause and effect of these regional wars. It isn’t hiding, it’s in plain sight.
It makes one wonder whether the jihadi-inspired brain rot has so deeply and irreparably pervaded our collective consciousness that they actually aren’t aware of their moral obfuscation, or worse, they know exactly what they’re doing and they’re doing it on purpose.
Either way, our zeitgeist is marked by a duration of sweeping dishonesty, and untruth only sets us down an ever more dangerous path…..
Iran has invaded Yemen with Houthis and occupied Lebanon with Hezbollah operating a state within a state. They interfere in Syria and do the same with Islamic terrorist proxies in Iraq. The whole Arab Sunni gulf world say they are toxic with territorial ambitions to dominate the Middle East with their tyrannical Shia Islamic rule caliphate that is their goal
Stop spreading your radical left anti Zionist ideology rubbish ( your anti Jewish ideology ) we all know the Jewish pogroms like 1929 by Arabs and others Jewish pogroms in Middle East Long existed before the state of Israel.l what was the Arabs Problem then about Jews ? The state of Israel it didn’t exist but anti Zionists like you to paint a fraudulent narrative of bliss for Jews under Arab / Islamic rule in Middle East. ( which is utterly false ) .. and why praise Assad who kills his own Arab citizens ( as does Iran regime etc ) I don’t see Israel murdering en masse their own Israeli citizens just for protesting en masses - they are allowed they have gay rights women’s rights and trans rights…. You are a joke ..
Stop spreading your radical left anti Zionist ideology rubbish ( your anti Jewish ideology ) we all know the Jewish pogroms like 1929 by Arabs and others Jewish pogroms in Middle East Long existed before the state of Israel.. but anti Zionists like to paint a fraudulent narrative of bliss for Jews under Arab / Islamic rule in Middle East. ( which is utterly false ) .. and wry praise Assad who kills his own Arab citizens ( as does Iran regime etc ) I don’t see Israel murdering en masse their own Israeli citizens just for protesting en masses - they are allowed they have gay rights women’s rights and trans rights…. You are a joke ..
Assad ( and with Hezbollah leader help ) murdered killed tens and tens and tens of thousands of his own Sunni Arab Syrian citizens . That is a fact..
Assad ( and with Hezbollah leader help ) murdered killed tens and tens and tens of thousands of his own Sunni Arab Syrian citizens . That is a fact..
And you are apologising for them and or praising these Arab butchers - Assad and Nazarallah
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Jasmine is lost and lost the argument she has her TOUNGE tied or
The difference between Israel’s overall goal and the Jihadists overall goal is that Israel seeks to eliminate the terrorists trying to kill them, and the Jihadists goal is to kill the Jews (or at least destroy the Jewish state and subject the Jewish people to submission under their oppressive, supremacist, ultra-nationalist, fascist rule).
The lack of universal moral clarity on this is not just astounding, but with regard to those who call themselves academics, experts, journalists, politicians, commentators, professors, and the like, it’s honestly embarrassing.
It’s one thing to be against war, violence, and death, which is a natural impulse to all feeling humans, but it’s quite another to reverse the cause and effect of these regional wars. It isn’t hiding, it’s in plain sight.
It makes one wonder whether the jihadi-inspired brain rot has so deeply and irreparably pervaded our collective consciousness that they actually aren’t aware of their moral obfuscation, or worse, they know exactly what they’re doing and they’re doing it on purpose.
Either way, our zeitgeist is marked by a duration of sweeping dishonesty, and untruth only sets us down an ever more dangerous path…..
Thanks for this - knew about this in a general way only - so thanks for the details on how this works and how insidious and widespread it was and is.
On my on my. Everything makes sense. Before I was fortunate enough to discover you how ignorant I was. Everytime I either read one of your articles or watch activemeassures my head hurts.
That's a compliment BTW.
All goes to confirm what I've believed all along:
"The only 'good' spy is a dead one!"
Fabulous, forward-thinking analysis! Wow. Curiouser & curioser...No?!
Great work as usual and I second the thanks for keeping it available for free. I’ll “rotate” my small-time funding of great journalists to you for awhile in appreciation.
Beyond that the sickening duplicity of these people’s language is a wonder to behold. I’m hoping it will call forth a Joseph Heller to skewer it.
I want to thank you for keeping your content free, Kit. I've lived as far from "the system" as its been possible for me to get for many years now, and as a result I no longer even have a bank account. But that doesn't mean I'm not interested in the world around me... Quite the opposite, in fact. It does mean that I can't do paid subscriptions though.
That said, I do my best to share the articles I find valuable.
Anyway, THANK YOU! 🙏