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Libertarian Overwatch's avatar

The "defense organization" that bombed Yugoslavia for over two months you gotta admire the brashness of it all.

JennyStokes's avatar

Yeah. Killing civillians.

Feral Finster's avatar

Yup. As I said, it worked. Meanwhile, Russia continues to dither.

JennyStokes's avatar

Is Russia 'dithering?' I don't know BUT they do not bomb civilians!

Helen Nowlin's avatar

Ask Ukraine if civilian targets aren't targeted.

JennyStokes's avatar

Go and read some proper news

JennyStokes's avatar

SO Feral: what do you wish for?

Feral Finster's avatar

Winning. And if you think that this is "winning" then stop telling yourself comforting lies.

Feral Finster's avatar

Winning. And if you think that this is "winning" then stop telling yourself comforting lies.

Feral Finster's avatar

Yes, Russia is dithering. Stop kidding yourself.

Russian principles will do neither they nor anyone else if they losr.

Evelyn K. Brunswick's avatar

I don't think it's a case of 'ignoring' all these warnings about how Russia would feel about all this, or how Russia would respond. I think it should be obvious that the whole thing was done precisely with the intention of provoking Russia's response.

Fortunately for us, and unfortunately for them, Russia understood this too, and spent a good amount of time progressing its military capabilities. Hypersonics and all that.

Why anyone would ever trust anything the Empire says is beyond me.

C Wrench's avatar

As Brian Berletic meticulously describes this was scripted from the start. They all knew exactly what they were doing and what would result and nothing has changed to date.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

I'm "shocked, shocked I tell you" that you are the only one to mention Berletic.

He rarely gets acknowledged for his outstanding analysis of events.

Often when someone mentions him it is with undeserved derision.

Berletic has the clearest perspective of the "Continuity of Agenda" pursued by the "American Empire" of anyone. He is the single most consistent voice in explaining how the "Anglo-American Oligarchy/Deep State" that Aaron Good writes about operates.

The "Where" and "What" are obvious.

Good explains the "Who"

Berletic explains the "How"

Wolff and Hudson explain the "Why"

Taken together they chart the course that the "Jewish Mob" will be taking for the next decade. They support Crooke's suggestion that the intention always was to close Hormuz and destroy the world's economies.

It also becomes clear that Israel is not the tail that wags the Dog. McGregor's rejection of the obvious fact that Israel is nothing more than a pawn of the "Deep State" because of the influence of AIPAC falls flat on its face when one understands that AIPAC exists solely because the Jewish Mob exists and that Capitalism at its core is immoral and criminal.

Helen Nowlin's avatar

Pawn of not just the "deep state" but pivotal, possibly in the international blackmail and human trafficking Epstein ring. This is why only about 3% of the total Epstein files have been released to date, while fakers are having a "preying" fest in D.C.

Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Thank you. I regularly watch Brian Berletic and recommend him to others. He is clear and concise and provides links to the documents he cites in support of his reports. Nobody else does that and I have learned a lot from him.

dacoelec's avatar

Read "Provoked" by Scott Horton. It'll tell you the sordid history of the most violent country in the modern world.

Hannibal ad portas's avatar

When every single member of the U.S. press called Russia's invasion unprovoked you knew they were lying.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Why do you think Larry Ellison now owns CBS and TikTok?

40% of American Billionaires are Jews.

2% of Americans are Jews.

The Mafia was retail.

Real corporate crime was carried out by the Jews. Lansky.

Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Here you go again. Your actual antisemitism is showing. This seems to be an obsession with you.

JennyStokes's avatar

Carolyn. I do not want Jewish people to suffer for Zionism BUT until ALL Jewish people speak out against the brutality of Zionism I have absolutely NO time for this antisemitic garbage...

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Thank you.

I suppose one should just ignore the slurs hurled but the accusations of antiSemitism have just worn out its welcome for me. I find myself reacting very strongly to the accusation and want to respond with as much hate as I feel that label directs at me.

There is an old Al Jazeera documentary on "The Lobby" which reveals the tactics the "Jewish Lobby" (Mearsheimer and Walt) use to hide the crimes committed by Jews.

I can't fix this. The Jews have to decide whether they want to continue Jewish Supremacy with the help of the Jewish Mob (which is a real criminal organization much stronger than the Mafia) or they want to seek to just get along, as the Jews in Iran do with the Muslims. I can't fix it.

I can only say that I will not accept a second-class position because I might offend some Jew. Nor will I continue to pretend that Israel is anything more than a criminal, fascist, apartheid, genocidal state that needs to be erased from the planet. By extension, anyone who accuses me of being antiSemitic is covered in the blood of thousands of Palestinians.

I support Iran and Palestine. If the Jews don't like it -- bring it on fucker. I am not your slave. I will not submit. I am horrified that as an American I am responsible for the murder of 170 Iranian children by Tomahawk missiles. I am ashamed I don't know how to stop it.

Again, thanks JennyStokes for standing against the evil before us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoHq6dBpxYU&

JohnOnKaui's avatar

Your Jewish Supremacist is showing.

I guess that’s an obsession with you.

If you’re so into Zionism, please go.

Feral Finster's avatar

The war was always entirely intentional.

The point was to put Russia in a spot where it had to capitulate or fight.

Since that time, NATO has sought to boil the frog, banking on Russian dithering and indecision in a war they do not want.

Cynical? Yes. Evil? Yes. Moreover, it works.

Emmanuel Goldstein's avatar

Just want to say: thank you, Kit, for properly informing me generally on the true record of the late Soviet era vis-à-vis a proper dissection of the heralded abominations that magnified after its 1991 fall; while there are definitely various legitimate critiques of the "eastern synarchy" bifurcated policy framework of the USSR, the full record is resoundingly clear for all to see that the imperial-agitated breakup of Soviet order created a grotesque sewer of neofascistic color-revolutionary perdition that never should have been allowed to thrive.

While I personally do remain particularly skeptical toward the early Leninist/Trotskyite strain of Bolshevism in light of its instrumentalized utility for WWI Anglo-American and Germanic intelligence purposes (it might be that you and I respectfully disagree on some of these details re. Bolshevism, though I nonetheless respect your outstanding journalistic and analytical rigor in spite of any such potential outlook differences), your work has vitally helped educate me on the record of Stalin and the USSR he left behind that has been shamelessly slandered by Western imperial propagandists.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

I'm trying, without much success so far, to distill Caleb Maupin's slide show on "Where did the Neocons come from?". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGVkNi3fcMw

Maupin draws a straight line from Trotsky to Jewish Supremacy to Zionism to the Neocons.

Good tells us that when "W" asked his dad, "What's a neocon", GHWB replied "Israel".

Finkelstein tells us that "if you have enough money to get to Israel and you don't go, you're not a Zionist". Rather you are a "Jewish Supremacist". The distinction is extremely important.

Good also tells us that the "Jewish Supremacists" (which is synonymous with Lansky's Jewish Mob) were foiled by GHWB when he stopped short of Bagdad so they plotted a "limited hangout" that exposed just enough of the BCCI scandal to keep GHWB from getting a second term.

Who here doesn't understand that Monica was a Mossad agent?

Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

You slander Trotsky here. I am a Trotskyist in the United States and you strike me as one of those "closet antisemites" that are so common these days. The idea that criticizing Israel is "antisemitic" is, of course, untrue. However, real antisemitism does exist, and you sound like the kind of person who throws all anti-Israel attitudes in a blender to hide your actual antisemitism.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

I didn't slander Trotsky, it was Maupin. If you care to watch his long podcast and provide us with a different perspective, then OK. Until then, that's what I heard him say. I've watched it like 3 times now. It is a very complicated examination that goes back to Trotsky and as far as I'm concerned show that the neocons are descendants of Trotsky.

Now I have very little understanding of Trotsky except that he apparently wanted global revolution and Stalin was a nationalist. I don't know who killed Trotsky. I'm guessing it was Stalin. But it could have been anyone.

The 1930s were full of Communists. Michael Hudson's dad was involved in the Minneapolis riots. Hudson never said anything about Trotsky that I heard.

I don't view myself as an Anti-Semite. As for "real antisemitism", I'm leaning toward the idea that Jewish Supremacists bring that on themselves. Norman Finkelstein seems to back me up on that. He's an amazing scholar who can't get a job because he (like Aaron Good) doesn't "tote the party line".

I'm guessing that you are upset because I mention the "Jewish Mob".

Sorry, Meyer Lansky was a real person. Murder Incorporated was a real criminal organization. Harry Truman gave Lansky a medal of freedom in a secret White House ceremony. Las Vegas was founded by Lansky to launder Mexican drug money. 40% of American Billionaires are Jews even though only 2% of the population. Yeah, Jews may be “smarter than the average” but not that much smarter. There’s no way you’ll convince me that the Jewish Mob didn’t finance those billionaires.

Want me to provide the link to the WP article that lists the 10+ Jewish billionaires who were pushing for laws to make antisemitic statements a crime? Want me to show you the evidence that Lansky’s mob was involved in the murder of JFK?

Yeah, Israelis don’t represent all Jews, but unfortunately for Jews they make that claim. And I’m just so over the idea that the Jews need a nation of their own where they can be “safe” to practice their unique form of cruelty and genocide.

Jews get along just fine with the Muslims in Iran. Israelis bomb them though. I dunno, seems anti-anti-Semitic or something like that.

Do you know that those who have served in the IDF can get VA benefits? I have over a decade of service. I can’t. Apparently there was some date that I had to apply for it after getting out of the service. I didn’t need it. Still don’t. But it does kind of piss me off.

American Jews have a problem. It isn’t my problem. It is their problem. If they want to be part of America, great. But this “Jewish Supremacist” crap just has to go.

So does this constant whine about antiSemitism.

Jimmy Roberts's avatar

All very academic, in both the literal and political senses. NATO is just a cover for naked DisUS imperialism, which has been intent on world domination since the end of WW2. The collapse of the Stalinist bloc in the USSR & Eastern Europe from 1989-91 put the plans of the Americans for world domination into overdrive. The age of capitalist imperialism, analysed and explained by Lenin at the turn of the 20th Century, means unceasing Wars for raw materials, natural resources, and installing client regimes that bend to the will of imperialism. Now the DisUS imperialists are actively targeting the regimes in both Moscow and Bejing for overthrow, up to and including War if necessary. We have an undeclared WW3 going on in Ukraine between Russia and NATO, with the American imperialists pulling all the strings. Only Socialist Revolution in the DisUS and one or more of the key imperialist countries like Germany & Britain can alter the balance of forces decisively and move the world in the right, that is the Socialist, direction. Socialist Revolution must also come to capitalist Russia and Stalinist China. Unless and until such major political upheavals occur, the world remains on course for extinction in a nuclear WW3. Trump and Putin are both psychopaths who think nothing of mass murder and global destruction if it means clinging on to their wealth, power, & privilege.

JennyStokes's avatar

Um. How can YOU equate Bumbling narcistic Trump with Putin.

After this China summit: who thinks US has any brain.

What the problem is here: Culturally US is a desert..............money rules.

Whilst the US bombs ancient countries 'back to the Stone Age' you forget that others in this world DO have ancient culture and the US cannot understand this.

Jimmy Roberts's avatar

I think you were aiming for "narcissistic." Putin is just as much of a psychopath as Trump although he does have greater intelligence, sophistication, and discretion. There is no doubt the American ruling class is extraordinarily degenerate, decadent, corrupt, and ill-educated. Trump is the embodiment of the descent of the American ruling class into open gangsterism and criminality. Previously, they kept most of their dirty deeds and plots under wraps. It poses the greatest threat to the world because it possesses the biggest nuclear arsenal, and with a madman like Trump in control of the nuclear codes, anything can happen. But Putin is a ruthless capitalist oligarch too, presiding over a Russian regime of gangster oligarchs. Working class people in Russia need to fight for Socialist Revolution (again) just as much as the American working class.

Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Hear, hear. I agree completely.

Marledonna's avatar

We are looking at the class battle between the rich and the poor. The rich use every possibility to gain more wealth and control. They don’t mind when the plebs die. The same plebs, you and me, that finance the many conflicts, that give their lives for the happy few. That created and made every invention to be then used by the happy few to control and extract more.

We need to get rid of this parasitical class or it will end very badly for most of us.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

There is no such thing as an Honest Billionaire.

Most might suggest Warren Buffet is honest. Let's get our heads around the fact that he once owned the railroad that destroyed East Palestine OH. Rather than fix it, he sold it.

Don't "grandpa" me.

CI Carlson's avatar

Kit, why do people use the Budapest memo as an argument against Russia instead of against Europe?

Heracles Sakalis's avatar

Horseshit. Russia has the largest nuclear deterrent and can not be threatened. Putin was welcomed by Blair and Bush when he was slaughtering Chechnya as they bombed Iraq. Blair invited Putin on a state visit complete with a golden carriage ride with the Queen. Putin floated Russia joining NATO but they blocked him because then NATO member states could spend their 2.5% of their GDP on Russian fighter jets and air defense systems instead of American ones. This is the true point of NATO not any strategic alliance. The war is about whether Russia or America gets to sell fighter jets to Ukraine in exchange for Ukrainian grain and rare earth minerals.

líng's avatar

North Atlantic Terrorist Organization…should’ve been dismantled a long time ago.

Lewis's avatar

We are poking the bear. Why are we poking the bear? The bear is growling! Why is the bear growling? We are poking the bear. Why are we poking the bear? The bear is growling!

I remember how happy I was when the Wall came down. I imagined a better future. I travelled, some, in the FSU. (Do people these days even recognize that acronym?) I saw that what I'd been taught was . . . well let's just say not entirely 100% accurate. I dreamed of a better future, for us, for them.

We keep poking the bear. Why are we poking the bear? The bear is growling.

Thank you, sir.

Helen Nowlin's avatar

Maybe historically, NATO was perceived as a threat, but, like all apples, it rots from the inside. Putin's authoritarian grip is not as appreciated after the senseless jailing and murder of the opposition leader, Navalny, in 2024, and the senseless invasion of Ukraine in 2014 and again in 2022 (for again, inconsistent reasoning, none of which explains the logic of an authoritarian). To understand why authoritarians do what they do, we have to grasp the basics of power politics. It is simply, let me do what I want, when I want to. Anything less is considered a threat, and for the most part, NATO expansion was merely symbolic to the effort made by Putin to invade other sovereign states. He wasn't the only one, and certainly, the West should know better by now. Navalny ran on an anti-corruption platform he launched in 2011. Putin's effort to take what wasn't his to take or power that shouldn't be concentrated was the problem that led to further corruption and desperation. The fall of the former USSR had unintended consequences. All state-owned property was sold off (for pennies on the dollar), and only certain people bought it. Putin and his friends were waiting, which is why it is often thought that the richest man in the world owns nothing in his own name. All apples rot from the inside out. Ask Orban. Orban started the same year as Navalny launched his platform in 2011, known as the "Eastern Opening" policy. You either keep an authoritarian at arm's length while keeping clear boundaries, or you get used up.

JennyStokes's avatar

I just read a very interesting editorial from UNESCO.

17 sites in the 'cradle of civilization' in Iran.

Because the US has no UNESCO sites? it is worth noting that the 'powers that be' decide these sites are not of any importance.

Completely DUMB USA.

History is recorded in words. You can SMASH the History of the World USA but you will NEVER be important in world history other than a country which continues wars on sovereign nations. I suspect that the US will be mentioned once: US is a Country that NEVER understood ancient civilization. STOP

As for the UK.........still fiddling in politics all over the world.

I would hope Russia takes London out sooner the better.

Wales/Scotland leave them alone.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

OK, nothing to do with the article -- yet, but why in the world do people say "One Off" when it is obvious (to me anyway) that it is "One Of".

Sorry, it has been bugging me for over a decade and every time I see "One Off" my mind screams in defiance. LOL

Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

"One off" or "a one-off" is a British expression meaning "never to be repeated". It originated in foundry work where a special piece was manufactured only once. In slang it means the same about an event that happens only once. Your mind needs to expand about language. I'm American and I've always known what "one off" means.

JohnOnKaui's avatar

You are a dick. Oh, sorry, I guess I meant cunt.