They talked about the same nonsense in Iraq back in 2003 and despite hundreds of billions (of US taxpayers money) supposedly handed over for this purpose when I eventually got there by 2010 nothing had been spent, I guess it just ‘disappeared’. We ploughed on successfully building over 3000 houses in Najaf with private investment and not long after the US left at the end of 2011 real investment started with non western firms in everything from cement plants to power stations and numerous housing schemes, so Ukraine will benefit from seeing the back of western madcap ideas. It’s an absolute certainty that they won’t benefit from anymore western involvement nor will any other country the west has systematically wrecked.
Great writeup - the entire thing is absolutely mad. The amounts of money being spent on senseless destruction, the pollution of much-needed agricultural land with heavy metals and depleted uranium, the ever-rising costs to ever rebuild, and worst of all the hundreds of thousands of people killed. Beyond that, there are also hundreds of thousands maimed - how will they and their families live? Who will pay for this?
This is one of the most senseless acts in European history. It underlines that what passes for leaders in Europe are anything but.
On the pollution point, the Balkans has been having unprecedentedly, unliveably hot summers with ever-escalating heat (hitting mid-40s regularly) since the proxy war began. Given the environmental destruction wrought on the region by NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia it's unsurprising many locals believe the proxy war is contributing to the heatwave - which is reaching Western Europe now too it seems.
It appears that capitalism unleashes the worst in human nature. Just like the founding of the the Republic of the United States, only worked for a moral people for whatever short period of time that was until Godless people took over. The love of money is the root of all evil.
People invented the platform you're conversing on for money, as well as everything else that provides you a first world lifestyle. Evil people are evil with or without money involved.
Never forget that Ukraine was to be the bridgehead to invade and Balkanize Russia, the ultimate prize for the Anglo-Saxon global elites who for the past 500 years colonized and plundered the rest of the world.
The real plan was ever always only for the europeans to intervene, once Ukraine starts to run low on warm live bodies, then for the Americans to ride to the rescue, rather than leave their catamites to twist in the wind.
What's up with Fareed Zakaria always hanging out at these institutional conferences? He was just moderating the Aspen Ideas festival sitting next to Susan Rice. Perfect merger of the media and the military industrial complex achieved.
A very good interesting article, America the Continent of The Rich built on LIES and CORRUPTION. They have held Europe as Slaves for over 80 Years for their part in WW2 European Theatre of Operations compared to Britain, The Commonwealth Armies, France, Poland, All the Resistance Groups throughout Europe and Russia. This Huge Continent that sacrificed so much and without whom the Second World War would have been Lost before America Joined it in 1941. I detest Propaganda which is the Zionist Owned Western World’ form of War Against anyone who disagrees with their agenda Then they attack Sovereign Nations using LIES as an excuse? if proof is needed why don’t all of you with tunnel vision who believe the West can do no wrong look at the following Countries which are in Ruins and where Anarchy Rules. The Balkans,Iraq, Afghanistan,Libya, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Ukraine, and ask yourselves this were These Countries Leaders any Worse than all The POTUS UK PM’ and the European Union throughout the Destruction Years of all these Sovereign States. The reason these Countries were illegally Invaded and their Infrastructure and Governments Destroyed is not because they were a threat to World Peace or even a threat to the USA UK and the EU, No they were Destroyed because they Wanted Nothing to do with America Britain or the EU. They were going to deal with RUSSIA all their OIL, Rare Earth Minerals, etc etc were going to be Traded to Russia this is the Reason these Sovereign States were Destroyed. What I have written is easily proven but whether the Majority of the People in the West of which I am one Born and Bred in Edinburgh Scotland into a (Family of Scots Irish” Rebels All) want the Unpalatable TRUTH well put it this way I will not BE HOLDING MY FUCKING BREATH.
I apologize for all this misery. We, here in the US, have zero control over our lawless government. Too many are fooled into voting for 1 of 2 criminal cabals. Both parties make it impossible for 3rd parties to advance.
The propaganda is astounding. We are robbed daily. I think this genocide is helping people to see. tRump fooled the MAGAs. Now we watch the further unraveling of empire. It's all quite sad.
We only have zero control not exerting ourselves. How handy to blame others. Russia, Putin, Israel, Netanyahu, our own string of lawless governments we let run wild. Now come back to bite us if we don't wake up and act. And thanks to such as KK. we can no longer plead ignorance. Money doesn't mean votes and we are more voters, more truthtellers, and more committed citizens than those who currently rule. It's past time for empire unwinding, only sad if as this JC comment sounds, in the face of victory you're committed to defeat. Defeat is un-American.
There is actually but One Party, that is the Uni-Party. Trump may have fooled his supporters, but No more effectively than Biden/Harris and later Harris/Walz fooled theirs. The Uni-Party is a very effective user of the "divide and conquer stratagery". All of this "fooling their bases" has allowed the "Blob" or the "Uni-Party" to maintain total power and control.
Can you imagine. All the ways I needed to hear that? Not least for the laugh. I have yet to find how to reconcile the people I care for with their careless selfishness re life and law.
Do you know who Kshama Sawant is here in Seattle. I'm a member trying to help her unseat Adam Smith (D-WA), Congressional District 9. Here's the website. We are trying.
Interesting, how coorporates can be fooled. Also Media, politiicans, people. I do not believe on a conspiration, there is als o big deal of greed and self-deception. Okay, there are also groups who try to reach goals. A lot of human behavior and processes lead to the end-result.
Thank you for this, Kit. I don’t understand why everyone isn’t outraged by these continuing proxy wars. Why am I in the weird position of agreeing with Marjorie Taylor Greene, one of the few politicians who is pushing to stop sending money and weapons to Ukraine (and Israel)?
Sputnik news reports from an FT article that two USA companies via a fraud case now ompex one of the biggest grain depot's and export facilities in Odessa. Interesting as Russia regularly targets Odessa docks?USA might get a bit concerned and act to protect?
This only makes it abundantly clear that only the opportunity to make money was the reason for the fighting in the first place. The old, old, plot that believed decapitating the government would cause the people to rise up against their government to effect regime change failed multiple times since World War II and yet. It failed against Cuba. It failed in Afghanistan and Iraq. It destroyed Libya completely and now it is failing in Ukraine. Ever since the traitor Allen Dulles began his monstrous depredations against peace, this old plan keeps being repeated. The greed of capitalism knows nothing else. When all else fails, the U.S. assassinates leaders, murders scientists and ruins entire civilizations. When will these predators be eliminated?
With Russia taking back its territory handed over to the political entity in the region called "The Ukraine" by Central Banker puppets Trotsky and Lenin, it seems like the Bankster's long term business planning that was part of their Communist model, hasn't gone quite their way in this particular respect. However their ownership of the Military Industrial Complex ensures they never fail to profit, win or lose.
Their major goal of impoverishing the people of the West morally and financially as they push towards their feudal one world tyranny, will no doubt, be little effected by following a slightly altered path of profit.
What you are saying about Lenin and Trotsky is defamation. I am a Trotskyist and what you have just said is a lie. Capitalism is the most evil system ever devised and since you appear to support it, you are despicable.
They talked about the same nonsense in Iraq back in 2003 and despite hundreds of billions (of US taxpayers money) supposedly handed over for this purpose when I eventually got there by 2010 nothing had been spent, I guess it just ‘disappeared’. We ploughed on successfully building over 3000 houses in Najaf with private investment and not long after the US left at the end of 2011 real investment started with non western firms in everything from cement plants to power stations and numerous housing schemes, so Ukraine will benefit from seeing the back of western madcap ideas. It’s an absolute certainty that they won’t benefit from anymore western involvement nor will any other country the west has systematically wrecked.
Great writeup - the entire thing is absolutely mad. The amounts of money being spent on senseless destruction, the pollution of much-needed agricultural land with heavy metals and depleted uranium, the ever-rising costs to ever rebuild, and worst of all the hundreds of thousands of people killed. Beyond that, there are also hundreds of thousands maimed - how will they and their families live? Who will pay for this?
This is one of the most senseless acts in European history. It underlines that what passes for leaders in Europe are anything but.
Beautifully put.
On the pollution point, the Balkans has been having unprecedentedly, unliveably hot summers with ever-escalating heat (hitting mid-40s regularly) since the proxy war began. Given the environmental destruction wrought on the region by NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia it's unsurprising many locals believe the proxy war is contributing to the heatwave - which is reaching Western Europe now too it seems.
Good points - there were some writeups last year on massive amounts of deforestation in Ukraine:
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-environment-forests/
https://grist.org/international/how-three-years-of-war-have-ravaged-ukraines-forests-and-the-people-who-depend-on-them/
It appears that capitalism unleashes the worst in human nature. Just like the founding of the the Republic of the United States, only worked for a moral people for whatever short period of time that was until Godless people took over. The love of money is the root of all evil.
Money is the root of all evil. Loving money makes you a psychopath.
People invented the platform you're conversing on for money, as well as everything else that provides you a first world lifestyle. Evil people are evil with or without money involved.
Never forget that Ukraine was to be the bridgehead to invade and Balkanize Russia, the ultimate prize for the Anglo-Saxon global elites who for the past 500 years colonized and plundered the rest of the world.
Anglo-Saxon CHRISTIANS. Their religion is evil, too.
Another well polished explanation of the proxy war and the real reasons behind it. Thank You!
Cheers Michael! I can but try!
The real plan was ever always only for the europeans to intervene, once Ukraine starts to run low on warm live bodies, then for the Americans to ride to the rescue, rather than leave their catamites to twist in the wind.
This plan is proceeding swimmingly.
What's up with Fareed Zakaria always hanging out at these institutional conferences? He was just moderating the Aspen Ideas festival sitting next to Susan Rice. Perfect merger of the media and the military industrial complex achieved.
A very good interesting article, America the Continent of The Rich built on LIES and CORRUPTION. They have held Europe as Slaves for over 80 Years for their part in WW2 European Theatre of Operations compared to Britain, The Commonwealth Armies, France, Poland, All the Resistance Groups throughout Europe and Russia. This Huge Continent that sacrificed so much and without whom the Second World War would have been Lost before America Joined it in 1941. I detest Propaganda which is the Zionist Owned Western World’ form of War Against anyone who disagrees with their agenda Then they attack Sovereign Nations using LIES as an excuse? if proof is needed why don’t all of you with tunnel vision who believe the West can do no wrong look at the following Countries which are in Ruins and where Anarchy Rules. The Balkans,Iraq, Afghanistan,Libya, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Ukraine, and ask yourselves this were These Countries Leaders any Worse than all The POTUS UK PM’ and the European Union throughout the Destruction Years of all these Sovereign States. The reason these Countries were illegally Invaded and their Infrastructure and Governments Destroyed is not because they were a threat to World Peace or even a threat to the USA UK and the EU, No they were Destroyed because they Wanted Nothing to do with America Britain or the EU. They were going to deal with RUSSIA all their OIL, Rare Earth Minerals, etc etc were going to be Traded to Russia this is the Reason these Sovereign States were Destroyed. What I have written is easily proven but whether the Majority of the People in the West of which I am one Born and Bred in Edinburgh Scotland into a (Family of Scots Irish” Rebels All) want the Unpalatable TRUTH well put it this way I will not BE HOLDING MY FUCKING BREATH.
I apologize for all this misery. We, here in the US, have zero control over our lawless government. Too many are fooled into voting for 1 of 2 criminal cabals. Both parties make it impossible for 3rd parties to advance.
The propaganda is astounding. We are robbed daily. I think this genocide is helping people to see. tRump fooled the MAGAs. Now we watch the further unraveling of empire. It's all quite sad.
We only have zero control not exerting ourselves. How handy to blame others. Russia, Putin, Israel, Netanyahu, our own string of lawless governments we let run wild. Now come back to bite us if we don't wake up and act. And thanks to such as KK. we can no longer plead ignorance. Money doesn't mean votes and we are more voters, more truthtellers, and more committed citizens than those who currently rule. It's past time for empire unwinding, only sad if as this JC comment sounds, in the face of victory you're committed to defeat. Defeat is un-American.
Try asking, not assuming.
There is actually but One Party, that is the Uni-Party. Trump may have fooled his supporters, but No more effectively than Biden/Harris and later Harris/Walz fooled theirs. The Uni-Party is a very effective user of the "divide and conquer stratagery". All of this "fooling their bases" has allowed the "Blob" or the "Uni-Party" to maintain total power and control.
A . . . um . . . request to KK to say why he liked this comment. I wouldn't have thought it. Please explain?
Accident.
I don't type every thing I think here. I also follow the Grayzone
Full disclosure, it's not like I haven't lived your comment. It takes strength to admit. Thanks for providing me the opportunity to let it rip!
We try to be helpful, pr.
Check this out.
We are working to elect her. Kshama Sawant.
www.workersstrikeback.org
www.kshamasawant.org
And other intelligent writers.
Can you imagine. All the ways I needed to hear that? Not least for the laugh. I have yet to find how to reconcile the people I care for with their careless selfishness re life and law.
Do you know who Kshama Sawant is here in Seattle. I'm a member trying to help her unseat Adam Smith (D-WA), Congressional District 9. Here's the website. We are trying.
www.workersstrikeback.org
www.kshamasawant.org
He's a near 27 year Democrat-ic warmongering, AIPAC-loving, Palantir representative. Now you made me type. 🤣
The sad is for all the dead people everywhere, pr.
Interesting, how coorporates can be fooled. Also Media, politiicans, people. I do not believe on a conspiration, there is als o big deal of greed and self-deception. Okay, there are also groups who try to reach goals. A lot of human behavior and processes lead to the end-result.
"All Wars Are Bankers' Wars".
Thank you for this, Kit. I don’t understand why everyone isn’t outraged by these continuing proxy wars. Why am I in the weird position of agreeing with Marjorie Taylor Greene, one of the few politicians who is pushing to stop sending money and weapons to Ukraine (and Israel)?
She is a white supremacist and imperialist. Only question with her is when and who. Not if.
@Susan, MTG probably has motives to give the $$$ elsewhere.
How could be so fulled away by their own fantasies, bankers have became gamblers, and directly
or indirectly owning the press (I include cinema, TV) world took them where they are. but their
own inventions are working against them, and that 10% of the world that can't be bought or
preassured have ways to make themselves seen and listened, when you uncover one lie, doubts
begin and there you go, down the rabbit hole.
Thank you for clarifying parts that allow us tie knots and be to see at least part of the spiderweb
and know that is there.
Sputnik news reports from an FT article that two USA companies via a fraud case now ompex one of the biggest grain depot's and export facilities in Odessa. Interesting as Russia regularly targets Odessa docks?USA might get a bit concerned and act to protect?
This only makes it abundantly clear that only the opportunity to make money was the reason for the fighting in the first place. The old, old, plot that believed decapitating the government would cause the people to rise up against their government to effect regime change failed multiple times since World War II and yet. It failed against Cuba. It failed in Afghanistan and Iraq. It destroyed Libya completely and now it is failing in Ukraine. Ever since the traitor Allen Dulles began his monstrous depredations against peace, this old plan keeps being repeated. The greed of capitalism knows nothing else. When all else fails, the U.S. assassinates leaders, murders scientists and ruins entire civilizations. When will these predators be eliminated?
With Russia taking back its territory handed over to the political entity in the region called "The Ukraine" by Central Banker puppets Trotsky and Lenin, it seems like the Bankster's long term business planning that was part of their Communist model, hasn't gone quite their way in this particular respect. However their ownership of the Military Industrial Complex ensures they never fail to profit, win or lose.
Their major goal of impoverishing the people of the West morally and financially as they push towards their feudal one world tyranny, will no doubt, be little effected by following a slightly altered path of profit.
What you are saying about Lenin and Trotsky is defamation. I am a Trotskyist and what you have just said is a lie. Capitalism is the most evil system ever devised and since you appear to support it, you are despicable.
Maybe you ought to try asking. Ya think? I don't type every idea in Substack comments. Have a great day! ✌️